Re: *-tro-/*-tlo-

From: tgpedersen
Message: 49133
Date: 2007-06-23

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-06-23 21:26, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> >> - For ukthá-, there is also the possible model of *wr.thó-,
> >> continued in Lat. verbum and OE word from underlying *wr.H1-tó-,
> >> the ptc. of the verbal root *werH1- seen in Gk. eíro: 'speak',
> >> rhé:to:r 'speaker'.
> >> This is of course mere guesswork, not any kind of proof.
> >
> > I thought verbum, word would point to *wr.-dhó- ??
>
> Not necessarily, though this is the usual reconstruction (which
> tries to account for EBalt. *wardas 'name' and OPr. wirds 'word').
> *wr.h1-tó- would have given Gmc. *wurDa- even without Olsen's
> preaspiration rule (via GL + VL), while Lat. verbum could be derived
> as *wr.h1-to-m > *wr.tHom > *worDom > *worbom > verbum (*wo- > Lat.
> /we-/ before coronals). It's often claimed that Latin must have a
> full-grade form (from *werdHom) because of Umb. verfale, thought to
> be related, but the meaning of the Umbrian word ('sacred enclosure')
> hardly guarantees a connection. The advantage of *wr.h1-to- is that
> its structure is fully understandable and the semantic derivtion is
> clear ('spoken' --> 'word'); the disadvantage is that the Baltic
> forms are difficult to explain.
>
> The verbal adj. wr.h1-tó- gives Gk. hre:tós 'stated, specified',
> perhaps with analogical regularistion.

I've somehow developed this crazy idea that the ppp ending is really
*-dhó- and that *-tó- is an allomorph that developed in certain
contexts and was later (almost) generalized. I know you are capable of
shooting that down, but I was wondering how you'd go about it?


Torsten