Res: [tied] Re: h3elh1- => destroy, anihilate

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 48872
Date: 2007-06-06

Perhaps we can add to these ones ON Vali, Ali, Odin's son that will avenge his Ragnarokian death. Perhaps his names meant "the destroyer", related to Apollon.

----- Mensagem original ----
De: alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 6 de Junho de 2007 7:21:50
Assunto: [tied] Re: h3elh1- => destroy, anihilate

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@ ...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@ >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Could somebody explain me why Beekes says 'On wrong hypotheses':
> >
> > " On wrong hypotheses s. W.-Hofmann s. aboleo:, de:leo: and
volnus;"
> >
> > making reference too Greek: ollumi < *olnumi (< *olne:mi < *h3.l-
n-eh1-
> > mi)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marius

> Much more interesting is Alb hall `trouble, disappointment, sorrow'
> from probably *H1ol-no with denominative hall-a-kat `disperse,
> scatter, throw about', deverbative hallakamë `disorder, mess,
> disturbance, alarm' with regular preserving of *h1 as /h/.
>
> Konushevci

Rom. hal and Alb. hall are 'usually' (-> see dexonline.ro)
considered loans from Turkish hal

If inherited, the reconstructed form should be PAlb *hal-wa < PIE
*h3elh1-wo-s '<possesing (the traces)> of <to destroy>-action'

because the clusters ln/rn are preserved in Romanian

Any hint about the Turkish hal?

Marius




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