From: Peter P
Message: 48831
Date: 2007-06-02
>Häkkinen contends that Finnish 'kieli' is of FU origin <*ke:le.
>
> Lerchner, Studien zum nordwestgermanischen Wortschatz has approx two
> pages' worth on kil f. "water course, shellow ditch, river bed"
> (obviously the origin of the many kill's around New York), eg. kil,
> ke:l etc and compares with Germ. Kehle "throat", Kelle "scoop" and
> Keil "wedge" (cf Est. keel, Finn. kieli "language, tongue"?). These
> would be un-Grimm-shifted versions of the kael/xal-sa- word (for some
> reason he left out 'tom Kiele', "at the kiel", the old name for the
> city of Kiel). Several of the cognates mean "deep water between
> obstacles" which makes one wonder if 'keel' goes here too.
>
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> Torsten
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