From: tgpedersen
Message: 48768
Date: 2007-05-29
> > I thought something like this: the Germani might have calledIt's an idea I've been pushing for some years now: Germanic was a
> > themselves Ermani (< Iranian *aryaman), cf. Alemanni, Arminius...
>
> ???
>
> Why should the ancient Germani have designated themselves by an
> Iranian-derived ethnonym? The ethnonym Arya-/A:rya- and its
> derivatives had no currency outside the Indo-Iranian-speaking world
> (N.B. Celtic Eire is not derived from it!).
> The standard etymology for Alamanni, cited in most etymologicalI know. Archives.
> dictionaries, is from the Germanic ethnonym *Alamanniz 'all men'
> (from Proto-Germanic *ala- 'all' and *manniz- 'men'). This name may
> indicate that they were a confederation of various tribes. The
> Alamanni were first mentioned by Cassius Dio describing the campaign
> of Caracalla in 213 CE.
> Arminius is probably a Latinized variant of the Germanic name IrminI know. Archives.
> meaning 'great'. Cf. the Latin ethnonym (first attested in Tacitus'
> _Germania_) for a group of early Germanic tribe, the Irminones, also
> referred to as Herminones or Hermiones. Pokorny derives Germanic
> Irmin from the -m suffixed form of the PIE root *ar-1; the Proto-
> Germanic form would be *erminaz, *ermenaz or *ermunaz (in personal
> names), with the meanining 'big, great, large, strong, tall, whole
> etc.'