Re: Latin is a q-Dialect having p- from kW , PIE is similar

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2007-05-16 01:32, tgpedersen wrote:
>
> > Aha. I must have meant the o in coic then.
>
> I think it does have an *o from some kind of labiovelar
> assimilation, but I'll have to refresh my memory as regards Goidelic
> sound changes. Anyway, Sabellic *pompe and Gallo-Brittonic *pempe
> can't be of common origin for at least two reasons:
>
> 1 (decisive, see Joao's post): An old *p would not have survived in
> Celtic.
>
> 2 (auxiliary): The Sabellic vowel in *pompe and similar words (like
> the root *pop- 'cook') results from an assimilation normally
> triggered by *kW.

This could instead be explained chronologically as sets of allomorphs:

*penkWe ->
*penkWe/*pempe (kW -> p allomorph) ->
*kWenKwe/*pempe (p- -> kW by shibboleth reaction) ->
*kWonkWe/*pempe (kWe- -> kWo) ->
*kWenkWe/*kWonkWe/*pempe/*pompe by analogy (loss of shibboleth action?)

cf. nom., acc. in
*édons, *déntm.

-> (generalization of presence/absence of pretonic vowel)

*édons, *edéntm.
*dóns, *déntm.

-> (generalization of stem vowel)

*édons, *edéntm.
*édens, *edéntm.
*dóns, *déntm.
*dóns, *dóntm.

-> (confusion of quality of pretonic and stem vowel)

*édons, *edóntm.
*édens, *edéntm.
*ódons, *ódóntm.
*ódens, *odéntm.
*dóns, *déntm.
*dóns, *dóntm.

and I haven't even covered the generalizations from zero grade.


Torsten