Re: The role of analogy, alliteration and sandhi in counting

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > > The point being that the PIE root *pag-/*pak- root should be

instead

> > > *(a)kWag-/pag-/pak-, a derivative of the *akWa-/apa- root, the

kW/p

> > > alternation being of the same pre-PIE origin, cf that that
> > > alternation exists within Celtic, Italic and Germanic (German

Luft

> > > / Dutch lucht).
> >
> > That's a specifically Dutch change.
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> In that gloss, yes.
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>
> > Are you talking about how it
> > appears KW > P in some Germanic words (wolf, sheep)?
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> That too.
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>
> > Either way I
> > don't think it has to do with PIE.
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> I think they do. The geographical distribution of the kW/p variants

in

> akWa/apa can't be aligned with any of the similar variants in Celtic
> (q-Celtic vs. p-Celtic), Italic (Latin vs. Oscan-Umbrian) and

Germanic

> (the above examples). Therefore I suspect some sort of kW/p variant
> distribution (sociolects?, substrate-induced?), already existed

before

> these three groups became separated.
>
>
> Torsten
>

In Romanian is apa , in Baltic too, so you need to increase this
areal: a huge part of Europe is affected

Marius