Res: [tied] Re: Again with the PIE homeland thing- RE: *(s)teuros

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 48422
Date: 2007-05-03

Semitic T (fricative) > IE st- ?
The vocalism *tauro- is alike *g(^)Haido-
When and where does this Semitic/IE contact ocurr? Semitic homeland is sometimes depicted as Arabian or Northeastern African.

Joao SL

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De: etherman23 <etherman23@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 3 de Maio de 2007 14:09:02
Assunto: [tied] Re: Again with the PIE homeland thing- RE: *(s)teuros

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@... >
wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@... s.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
> <cdog_squirrel@ > wrote:
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> > Along with the ongoingly discussed PIE *(s)tauros - Proto-Semitic
> > *t~awr- (both bull, first also aurochs, second also ox),.......
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> I wonder why S. Starostin's databases don't venture into comparing
> these two proto-words, which look astonishingly similar in form and
> meaning:
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> http://tinyurl. com/yt3b79
> http://tinyurl. com/yux6my
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> Also, these two proto-words are apparently not compared in A.
> Bomhard's 2007 Nostratic book, of which I have a preprint.
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> Any thoughts, anyone?

If the PIE root is *(s)taur then we have an apparent violation of root
constraints. PIE didn't have any roots with a diphthong followed by a
resonant. That suggests a borrowing. If we analyze the root as *(s)tau
instead then the comparison breaks down because of the *r in the
Semitic form.



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