RE : Re: [tied] Automn and lamb

From: patrick cuadrado
Message: 48393
Date: 2007-04-30

IE ster- no fertile
i've got
Germanic Steuraz = young bullock.  Gotique Stiur. Vieil Anglais Steor < Anglais Steer. Allemand/Néerlandais Stier. Vieux Suédois Stior.
Vieux Norrois Stjorr.
Gotic Stairo
Grec Stereshtai = to disinherit
Old Slavic Sterica = Barren Cow and Staru = Old. Tchec Stary = Old
Celtic Stirona = Heifer
 
IE = Steu-ro = to be big ?
Avestan Staora = Big herd. Middle Perse Stor = Horse
Sanskrit Sthura = compact/Thick and Strarih = Fertile cow (?)
 
 
Barren
Celtic Bran-aro = Uncorrped ground < Welsh Breanar and wild ground = Breton Breinar. Irish Branar and may be some connection with spanish Breña = waste land and old French Bréner = to defecate
 
Barr-en = no (-en: privatif suffix)+ fertile (Barr-) may be connect with IE roots Ber(t)- = to carry<pregnant
look old French Baraigne < French Bréhaigne
Old English Bearn/Boren < Bairn/Burn
Alb. Me barrë (Pregnant).
Welsh Bearen = pregnant 
 
 


stlatos <stlatos@...> a écrit :
--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@ ...> wrote:

> *ster-5 `barren'. 1. Alb. shtjerrë `lamb' with prefixed variants
> mështjerrë/mëshqerrë from *ster-neH2: 2. shterpe `sterile female',
> abstract noun shterpëri `infertility' , synonymic with shterr-ni `id.'
> from *sto:rbh-o: Latin sterilis: NIce stirtla `barren cow', Bulg
> sterica `barren cow', Grk steira `id.', steriphos `barren': Arm ster
> `barren', Skt sta'ri:- `barren cow', Toch B &#347;ari `kid'. (Pokorny 6.
> ster- 1031.)

It's possible that the PIE form * steribhuxwos 'being barren, barren
being' > Greek and Albanian (see
http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/ cybalist/ message/48213 ). Though I
don't know how unstressed e before i would behave or what order the
rules of V-deletion, etc., would need to occur in Albanian, I'd prefer
* steribhuxwos > * steribwas > *sterpwas or something similar rather
than * sto:rbh- with no other evidence than Alb e.




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