Re: [tied] Hekto:r etymology

But there are plenty of cases of name changes, especially when dealing with´"barbarians" --there are translations, as in the case of my Shawnee ancestor "Cornstalk"; also see Red Cloud, Sitting Bull, etc. There are corruptions, as in the case of Sorley Boy Mac Donald from Somherlaidh Buidhe (sp?) who was therefore a blond rather than a kid, as well as Scanderbeg who surely neither scampered nor begged --and wasn´t his given name George? Even Saddam Hussein is said to have reversed his name from Hussein Saddam. And then there are arbitrarily given names or nicknames such as Geronimo, Barbarossa (the North African corsairs, as well as the German emperor). Given that we live in more literate times, we can´t fully appreciate the opportunities for false etymologies, embellishments, etc. from peoples with oral literature.

alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

Seems that Hekto:r etymology is an IE one :
The -to:r termination belongs to *-ter PIE suffix, representing an IE
suffix forming agent nouns from the verb stem

Regarding Hek- this was put in link with Greek ekhein 'to hold' < PIE
*seg^H- 'to hold, to possess, to conquer'

But as I know, Hekto:r was Trojan not Greek, so why we need to
consider his name having a Greek origin?

Argument Against a Greek Etymology:
1. - If the Trojans were IE-peoples, to derive Hekto:r from another
root is not impossible
2. - Priam and Hecuba seems to be Non-Greek Names (not to talk
about Paris)
3. - there are no cases in the ancient (Decebalus) or today history
(Sadam Hussein) where the original names are changed (there are
misspellings for sure, but no changes)

A greek etymology will raise also the following question:
a) Why we have this mixture of Greek and 'Trojans' names for Trojans
at Homer: do we need to consider a Greek influence in that areal or
at least, a ruler Trojan Family having Greek members?
b) because to consider that Homer invented all that names, or
changed 'half of them' will not be a good thing...

Marius

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