--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2007-03-21 21:09, alexandru_mg3 wrote:
>
> > Thanks for this observation. It was my misunderatnding due to
the
> > notation.
> >
> > 1. Do you know a real language where xH is present?
> >
> > 2. Could this presence go together with x and xW in the same
> > language?
>
> Aspirated fricatives are extremely rare. Burmese has a three-way
> contrast of /s/ : /sH/ : /z/, and the non-tense sibilant in Korean
(very
> similar to Burmese /sH/) may also be described as aspirated, but in
both
> cases the sounds in question are aspirated coronal sibilants (s-
like
> fricatives). I don't know of any language with a contrastively
aspirated
> back fricative.
>
> Piotr
>
1. If so, we should better consider a sequence of Voiceless velar
fricatives?
x - plain velar fricative
x^ - palatal-velar fricative
xW - labialized velar fricative
to have a similar sequence with k, k^, kW
In this case:
I) h3=xW
we would have
*pip-h3e-ti /*pip-xWe-ti/ > [maybe voiced Only in this context?] >
*pip-be-ti > *pi-be-ti
with p/xW > p/b > b
and:
*h3e,a,o > xW/e,a,o > xo
I think h3=xW is good enough
II) h2=x^
I don't see how a simple x can transform h2e /xe/ in h2a /xa/
But x^e > x^a or ex^ > ax^ seems possible
*ph2ter /*p&x^-ter/
The most problematic is this h2 that could be either:
x^ - palatal
x' - ejective
etc...
But if the other series were really:
k k^ kW
g(H) g^(H) gW(H)
We need to select a palatal-velar fricative /x^/ here
III) h1=x
x is neuter enough not to color anything
It Could be ok.
h1esmi /xes-mi/
So x, x^, xW (unvoiced)
as k, k^, kW?
Marius