Re: Laryngeal values

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gąsiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:

>
> alexandru_mg3 napisał(a):
>
> > Yes, I think so, because the sound xh really exists in reality...
> >
> > ..."xh is a voiceless uvular fricative. "
> >
> > In fact I found an existing language that contains the full

sequence:

> > x, xw, xh, xhw (before to make my above supposition, otherwise to
> > make only abstract suppositions doesn't make sense)
> >
> > "L9/10 Heiltsuk (Wakashan): b, p, p', d, t, t', dz, ts, ts', g,

k,

> > k', gw, kw, k'w, G, q, q', Gw, qw, q'w, s, x, xw, xh, xhw, h, h',

m,

> > m', n, n', dl, tl, tl', l, lh, l', w, w', j, j'; i, a, u
> > [..]
>
> A case of misunderstanding. Here, "xh" (many Wakashan specialists

use

> the spelling "x^") is just an orthographic notation for /X/ (a

uvular

> fricative, contrasting with velar /x/). Heiltsuk has plain /x/

and /X/,

> labialised /xW/ and /XW/, but no aspirated /xH/.
>
> Piotr
>

Thanks for this observation. It was my misunderatnding due to the
notation.

1. Do you know a real language where xH is present?

2. Could this presence go together with x and xW in the same
language?

Thanks again,
Marius