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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
> 'I detected' that we have a long u: in Latin hu:ma:nus
>
> If somebody can help me to correctly derived this word...
> It should be:
> *dHg^H-o:m-h3n- > hu:ma:nus
>
> The final root is for sure dHg^Hem-
>
> But we have some long o:-forms in this root (see Greek)
>
> So the root is presented as dHeg^H- and next dHg^Hem- is
supposed to
> be dHg^H-em- > dHg^H-o:m- etc..
>
> Based on this we have :
>
> Hu:ma:nus (with a long-vowel) < *dHg^H-o:m-h3n-? versus
> Homo: < *dHg^H-m-mo-,
> Humus < *dHg^H-om-o- ...
>
> Viewing this we would have similar to : dHg^H-em- / dHg^H-o:m-
>
> Ro:mulus (*h1rh1-o:m-) (with a long vowel) versus Remus (*h1rh1-
em-)
>
> In this case the root is h1reh1- extended to h1reh1-em-/h1reh1-
o:m-
>
> Rhea is *h1rh1-e-eh2 ?
> Remus is *h1rh1-em-u-s
> Ro:ma is *h1rh1-o:m-eh2
> Ro:mulus is *h1rh1-o:m-ulo/elo
>
> PIE *h1r(e)h1- `loose, thin, rare, separate'
>
> The source of the long vowel is more clear now
>
> In this case we have h1rh1-em-u-s versus h1rh1-o:m-eh2;h1rh1-o:m-
> ulos/-elos
>
> like in dHg^H-em-/dHg^H-o:m-
>
> So wee have a lengthening o-grade (but not due to a laryngeal
(peace
> Miguel))
>
> If true, the constructions Remus/Ro:mulus;Ro:ma is for sure a PIE
one.
>
> Thanks a lot,
> Marius
>
Plutarch, The Parallel Lives
The Life of Romulus
"Amulius being now dead, and matters settled in the city, the
brothers were neither willing to live in Alba, unless as its rulers,
nor to be its rulers while their grandfather was still alive. Having
therefore restored the government to him and paid fitting honours to
their mother, they resolved to dwell by themselves, and to found a
city in the region where, at the first, they were nourished and
sustained; this surely seems a most fitting reason for their course.
But perhaps it was necessary, now that many slaves and fugitives
were gathered about them, either to disperse these and have no
following at all, or else to dwell apart with them. For that the
residents of Alba would not consent to give the fugitives the
privilege of intermarriage with them, nor even receive them as fellow-
citizens, is clear, in the first place, from the rape of the Sabine
women, which was not a deed of wanton daring, but one of necessity,
owing to the lack of marriages by consent; for they certainly
honoured the women, when they had carried them off, beyond measure.
And in the second place, when their city was first founded, they
made a sanctuary of refuge for all fugitives, which they called the
sanctuary of the God of Asylum. There they received all who came,
delivering none up, neither slave to masters, nor debtor to
creditors, nor murderer to magistrates, but declaring it to be in
obedience to an oracle from Delphi that they made the asylum secure
for all men. Therefore the city was soon full of people, for they say
that the first houses numbered no more than a thousand. This,
however, was later. "
So the Semantism of Rome :
Ro:ma < *h1rh1-o:m-eh2 => 'the isolated place/the place of the
separated ones' => "The city of lawless persons or The city of
fugitives from the law"
< PIE *h1r(e)h1- `loose, thin, rare, separate'
is sustained by the above paragraph of Plutarch.
Marius