Re: Res: [tied] Etymology of Rome - h1romh-eh2 again

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 47778
Date: 2007-03-10

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham" <richard@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
>
> > I think Richard that you didn't read & understand completely my
> > posted pdf...
> >
> > This clearly result on you above comment.
>
> What are you objecting to? The claimed change is romhV > ro:mV and
> what may have preceded the /r/ is irrelevant. Modern English does
> have VC.V syllabification, though the author of the PDF seems to be
> unaware of this. I think it's actually more likely that he ignored it
> as an inconvenient linguisitically atypical fact.
>
> Richard.
>


1. Richard, Miguel, himself, accepted that m will move in the next
syllable ro.ma ==> He said only that o would remain short.
I think that 'I demonstrated' that this assumption is false : *od.wos >
< Grk. o:.dos)

2. So "it's Only you" that think that m-should remain in the first
syllable...But before to make such assertion, you will need
to give a PIE example of VC.V (based on the Old Greek or Sanskrit)
And Please to address the facts too: (*od.wos > Grk. o:.dos),
before to make 'general appreciations' on different theories..

More than this, based on the fact that there is "NO ROOT IN PIE TO
START WITH A VOWEL" for sure we have "in PIE Always an ONSET in the
first syllable", and I suspect that it could well be the case
everywhere....(I didn't check anything, it's only a speculation)
I think that we could start a debate if PIE was a "Strictly Onset
Language" or not.

3. Even for your English example (but this is not directly linked to
the topic, despite your efforts), N in /singer/ siN.&(r) it hasn't a
Coda-Role, so it's not a good example, it's only 'a trick'...

Before to talk about 'unware authors' better to thing a little bit more
what could be the syllable structure in singer

Please also to try to find an English VC.V example with m please as is
the case for m in Rome :)(or at least one with a 'true coda')

Here is my help for you:
amour /&.mur/
amaze /&.ma:z/
amount /&.maunt/

It's clear enough? V.CV

Marius