Re: [tied] Re: PIE i- and u-stems again

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 47485
Date: 2007-02-15

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:16:01 -0000, "tgpedersen"
<tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:03:24 -0000, "tgpedersen"
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> >If so, is the *-r/*-n part detachable from the stem in *-u, *-i
>> >> >and *-a?
>> >>
>> >> No. *-un- is a suffix. Suffixes are (C)VC(C).
>> >>
>> >
>> >Is it true that you have stems suffixed in *-un, *-in, *-an which
>> >becomes your various n-stems, and that /u/, /i/, and /a/ become the
>> >ablaut vowel, which means thematic stems are really *-u, *-i, *-a
>> >stems?
>>
>> Something like that.
>>
>> >Because if so, there exists an n-suffix.
>>
>> No. How does that follow?
>>
>
>*-u, *-i, *-a stems exist. They are called thematic stems.
>*-un, *-in, *-an stems exist. They are called n-stems.
>Semantically, there exists an indefinte/definite relationship between
>the two types of stems; Latin catus/cato:, Germanic strong/weak
>adjectives.
>Diachronically, n-stems can, in your analysis, be derived from
>thematic stems by the addition of *-n.

No. The direction of derivation is athematic -> thematic
(e.g -(e)n-stem -> -(e)no-stem). There are no n-stems
derived from thematics (well, Tocharian has thematics
augmented by the suffix *-h3on, which are technically
n-stems).


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