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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, patrick cuadrado <dicoceltique@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I work about etymology from Latin Frequ-entis means «
> often/repetition » but also
> > numerous/populated/full/acumulation/afluence
> > but i can't find connections with other IE languages with roots
> Phrek-Phrak- or B(h)ereg-/B(h)arag- = numerous *
> > does any connection between Latin Frequ-entis (Wealth/Plenty)
> and Latin Farcio/Farcire from Farctus/Fartus = (To stuff/To cram)
> >
> >
> >
> > *In french we've got a slang term « Fric » = (Dough/money)
> from « Fricot » (Meat/Stew < Feasting/Delight)and others meanings «
> Fricot » = Illicit gain/misapropriation, « Fricoter » = to work with
> someone/to plot/to scheme/to have sexe with somenone/to cook/to
> waste in feasts...but all terms may be come from Latin « Frigere » =
> to Fry.. beceause only cooking terms
> (Fricandeau/Fricassé/Fricadelle/Frichti...)
> >
> >
> >
> > Pat
> > mon blog ici
> > http://blogs.allocine.fr/blogs/index.blog?blog=patrick-cuadrado
> ************
> According to Watkins, Latin frequens 'frequent, crowded' is probably
> from PIE *bhrekW- 'to cram together', till fracire 'to cram, stuff'
> is from its zero-grade form *bhr.kW-yo, Greek phrasein 'to fence in,
> enclose, block up'.
>
from Jens Elmegård Rasmussen
Italic and Celtic /a/ as o-grade substitute
"
17. farcio: 'stuff : Lat. freque:ns 'crowded': IE root unknown,
possible forms *bhrekW- and *dhrekW-. Of these, *bhrekW- lends itself
perfectly to a comparison with Albanian bark 'belly, womb', cf. the
derivative mbarsë 'pregnant', the alternation k/s proving IE *kw. Did
zero-grade *bhr.kW- give Italic *bh&rkW- -> *bhr&kW- > *frak- which
was changed to *fark- by conflation with the regularly developed
alternant form *fork- ? The Albanian form is embarrassing, since the
development of *bhr.kW- would be Alb. *brik-, there being then no
alternating forms with -VR- to serve as a model for bark. Perhaps bark
is by metathesis from *brak due either to sexual taboo or, more
likely, to the influence of a derivative from the root *bher- 'carry,
bear, give birth', a good candidate being barrë 'burden, cargo, load',
barrësí 'pregnancy'. This etymology, first given by Wiedemann 1902:231
who expressly refers to Pedersen's masterful 1900 article on the
treatment of velars in Albanian as the basis of the sound rules
involved, found the approval of Walde-Pokorny, only to be replaced
in Pokorny IEW 130 by an unmotivated and unspecified derivation from
*bher- 'carry'. It should be reinstated in its position as a capital
piece of evidence for the assibilation rule of labiovelars in
Albanian. (Ap., IG.)
"
Torsten