Re: Finnish -kummentä- : any connection to PIE?

From: Peter P
Message: 46866
Date: 2006-12-31

This brings on another interesting question. 11 - yksitoista, 12 -
kaksitoista, ... 19 - yhdeksäntoista. The ending -toista means 'of
the second'. Toinen - second < toi/tuo dem. pron. that/second <
Uralic *to, *to: or *tu. It sure looks a lot like the IE 2. Coincidence?

BTW, the word 'yh-dek-säntoista' - 19 may look as if it had the IE
*dek^m - 10 in it, but this is more likely a coincidence. The
translation of the word is something like, one incomplete of the second.

Peter P

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Kim Bastin <kimb@...> wrote:
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> Kymmentä not *kummentä. You must mean the multiples of 10 from 20
> (kaksikymmentä) to 90 (yhdeksänkymmentä). It is the partitive of
> kymmen (noun) 'ten' and kymmenen (numeral) '10', so they mean 'two
> tens' etc. Kymmen(en) is not considered to be related to *dek^m. (and
> there's a good chance this was in fact *dek^m.t).
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> Kim Bastin
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> On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 03:40:25 -0000, you wrote:
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> >I noted that the numbers from 11 to 19 in Finnish all end in
"kummentä"
> >or "kymmentä". Is this at all related to Indo-European *dek^m in zero-
> >grade form (dk^m.)?
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