Re: [tied] Re: Nahar root indo-european Narnia in Italy

Dear Frends

I found this informations about Nar Narna Narnia

N A R N I A
Straboni, vel Narnia, Umbriae civitas, per quam Nar fluv. labitur, a quo et nomen accepti, Liv. l. 10. c. 9. Olim Nequinum dicebatur, teste Pliniô, l. 3. c. 14. a nequitia incolarum, qui obsessi, se liberosque occidere quam dedere maluerunt.
Patria Nervae Imperatoris et Ioh. XIV. Pontificis. Ad montis est radices, Ferrar. et in parte meridionali, rupes habet admodum praecipites, quarum imo in hiatu Nar, per scopulos, confragosô alveô labitur. Municipes huius loci Nartes quondam dictos fuisse, ex antiquis marmoribus docet Hermolaus. Plinio vero Narnienses. Sic enim ille l. 31. c. 4. Inagro Narniensi quaedam terrae imbribus sicciores fiunt, quod admirandis suis inseruit M. Cicero, siccitate lutum fieri prodens, imbre autem pulverem. Nerni hodie dicitur Leandro.
Sil. l. 8. v. 458.
Hispellum ac duro monti per saxa recumbens
Narnia.
Martial. l. 7. Epigr. 92.
Narnia sulfureô quam gurgite candidus amnis.
Circuit, ancipiti vix adeunda iugô.
Claudian. de 6. Consul Honorii. v. 515.
Celsa dehinc patulum prospectans Narnia campum
Regali calcatur equo; rarique coloris
Non procul amnis abest urbi, qui nominis auctor
Ilice sub densâ silvis arctatus opacis
Inter utrumque iugum tortis anfractibus albet.

see at:

http://www.uni-mannheim.de/mateo/camenaref/hofmann/hof3/s0274a.html

thanks to Francesco for info about Naharki and Nera Valley ( Valnerina in Italian)

regards

Giuseppe

www.narnia.it

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From: Joao S. Lopes

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Subject: Res: [tied] Re: Nahar root indo-european Narnia in Italy

Just a guess, but could be Greek Akheron < *nkHer- = nahar, nhar ?

Joao SL

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@... it>
Para: cybalist@... s.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2006 21:09:42
Assunto: [tied] Re: Nahar root indo-european Narnia in Italy

Caro Giuseppe,

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "Fortunati Giuseppe"
<fgiusepp2@. ..> wrote:
>
> Dear New Friends, I am Italian and live in Narnia town now named
> Narni in Umbria region. I like to know more about the name of my
> town. For this I study a little about it and I think that the root
> of the name come from Nahar that are an old name that come from
> the Indo-European root that means River.

Actually this etymology does not seem to be a viable one.

http://tinyurl. com/yhcfbo
<< The great necropoleis of Terni prove the existence of a
protohistoric Umbrian culture that flourished in the valley of Terni
in the first millennium B.C., before the Romans arrived in the area
at the beginning of the 3rd c. B.C. This culture can be identified
as the "Naharkum numen" (the "nation of the Nera") cited in the
famous Iguvine Tablets (Tab. Ig. Ib 16-17; VIb 54 and 58-59; VIIa 12
and 47-48), the principal document for the language and culture of
the ancient Umbrians. "Nahar" is the Umbrian name of the river that
cuts through the plain of Terni: in Latin, Nar, today, the Nera. The
term would indicate the presence of sulphur in the waters, a quality
that made them sacred. Roman Terni, called Interamna Nahartium in
the ancient sources, reveals in its name, not only its topographical
characteristic of being built on a fluvial peninsula, but also its
ancient Umbrian roots: it records the ancient people of the Naharci,
Latinized into Nahartes.

A. Fabbi, (_Antichità Umbre_, Assisi, Pontificio Seminario
Regionale, 1971) reports that the Sabine word nhar means `sulphur'.
The Sabine language belonged to the Osco-Umbrian subgroup of Italic
languages. The present river Nera (Umbrian Nahar, Latin Na:r, -is
m.) has some sulphurous springs along its course (at Triponzo) and,
therefore, picks up a lot of sulphur that makes its tumultuous
waters turbid. Latin writers often mention the Nar's sulphurous
waters: "Nar amnis exhaurit illos [Velinos lacus] sulphureis aquis"
(Plin. 3, 12, 17, § 109); "Solporeas posuit spiramina Naris ad
undas" (Enn. ap. Prisc. p. 691 P. [Ann. v. 265 Vahl. ]); "Audiit
amnis sulfurea Nar albus aqua fontesque Velini" (Verg. A. 7, 517) --
see Lewis & Short's Latin Lexicon at

http://tinyurl. com/yekgtx

Anyone on the List knows about this posited Osco-Umbrian word
nhar/nahar meaning `sulphur' and its etymology?

Thanks and best regards,
Francesco Brighenti

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