Re: Help with Germanic & Scythian etymology

From: tgpedersen
Message: 46410
Date: 2006-10-18

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "A." <xthanex@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps I missed something, was there a specific remark or
> conclusion
> > > you are referring to?
> > >
> >
> > Well, yes, the idea of the two first brothers sharing the
> > inheritance such that the oldest gets the immobile property
> > (*leikW-), and the second gets the mobile property (*orbh-).
> > That would mean that the dichotomy between immobile and mobile
> > property is old in IE jurisprudence. That's also why I want to
> > understand *gWih3w- "live", which Piotr has shown is related to
> > *gWow- "cow, cattle", as "moving around", ie "mobile".
> >
> > Torsten
>
> Ok, that is pretty cool.
> The first born Leib-prinz, second born Erb-prinz, and prince
> charming; is an interesting theory.
>
> Now if you can give me an equally intriguing (or better) etymology
> to the Germanic brother known as Istaev/Istio/Iscio/Hiscion - I'll
> try to get my wife to bake you some cookies?!
>
> Yes, I will resort to petty bribery.



It sounds tempting, but, sad to say, I have no proposals there (and
how would my anti-spyware programs react?). Nor do I for the
Ingvaeones, except there is supposed to be a connection with a king
Yngve. On the Ermi(n)ones I've written much. It runs something like:
The first Germani in Germania were the Hermunduri, later named
Thuringi, in Thuringia. Assuming the first name is Iranian, the two
names meant the same: follower- [armin-] Tur (or Dur), Tur-follower.
The Iranians were traditionally enemies of Turanians, one tribe of
which were the the Danu (I noted with interest). Tacitus says those
the Romans first mistakely named Germani were actually 'Tungri'.
That name lives on in Tongern in Belgium, which might then be the
resettlement place of Ariovist's beaten army.


Torsten