Re: [tied] Help with Germanic & Scythian etymology

Initially there is the Norse creation myth where Buri has a son Bor,
who in turn gives rise to 3 sons: Odin, Vili, and Ve. Odin is self
explanatory, Vili is generally unknown, and Ve has been well linked
with Thor (see Turville-Petre pg 100)

Moving on we come to the account of Tacitus where TUISTO has a son
MANNUS ('man')
Mannus has three sons which are ISTAEV/ISCIO, ING, and IRMIN.
These three sons give rise to the tribes of Istvaeones, Ingvaeones,
and Irminones.

1) Ing seems to be Yngvi Frey and is a term used in skaldic poetry
to mean "king" - Frey's name means "lord". Frey is also given the
name Ingunar-Frey in the Lokasenna, thus this equation seems very
firm.

2) Istaev/Iscio - is an unknown at this time

3) Irmin may be either Odin or Thor.
Odin is called Jormunr in one text, however Turville-Petre (pg 62)
points out this is likely an usurped name. On the flip side of the
coin, the name irmin seems to mean "giant, great, enormous" and thus
the term would be more fittingly applied to Thor. So here, we are
stuck being unable to determine which god is meant.


Let us now add in the info from Nennius' "History Of The Britons"
(Historia Brittonum) 820 AD.
Here Tuisco is replaced by a character named FETHUIR, his son is
ALANUS (Mannus)
The three sons of Alanus are HISCION, ARMENON, and NEUGIO

NOW we have:
Ymir/Buri = Tuisto = Fethuir
Bor = Mannus = Alanus

Brother 1 = Vili (Frey?) = Ing = Neugio (they look linguistically
related to my untrained eye)

Brother 2 = Istaev/Istio/Iscio/Hiscion

Brother 3 = Irmin/Armenon (this is either Odin or Thor with the
other likely being Iscio)


Further thought, I have no idea if it is accurate, but Nennius'
name "Fethuir" does seem remarkably like 'father' - additionally the
Norse term Buri means 'father'.

If we could just clarify the etymology and meaning of
Istaev/Istio/Iscio/Hiscion, I think we would be able to nail down
the triad much more clearly. Additionally the Danube river was
originally known as the Ister and may be linguistically related to
this figure or the tribe having resided in that area.



Does anybody have any suggestions for Istaev/Istio/Iscio/Hiscion ??

Or can someone confirm Fethuir = father??

Thank you!
Aydan