[tied] Re: Greek Themis and Sanskrit cognates

From: A.
Message: 46250
Date: 2006-10-02

Piotr,

My thanks for your knowledgable input and for sorting this out for me!

Regards,
Aydan




--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> On 2006-10-02 11:26, A. wrote:
> > BUMP
> >
> > Anyone? Bueller?
> > Anyone?
> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "A." <xthanex@> wrote:
> >> Rephrasing things for simplicity:
> >>
> >> It is my understanding that the Greek "Themis" (the goddess
> > of 'right
> >> order') and the Sanskrit "dhaman" (meaning 'decree'); stem from
the
> >> PIE root *dhe- (or dhĂȘ-), 'to put place'.
> >>
> >> Someone else informed me that "the Encyclopedia of Indo-European
> >> Culture" gives the root of Themis as *dheH1-, which would lead
to
> >> *dhe:- (with the loss of the laryngeal) > *dhe:mis
> >>
> >> Interestingly, this person stated that dharma also derives from
> > *dhe
> >>> *dhe'mn.
> >> However, I had thought that dharma derived from *dher- >
suffixed
> > to
> >> *dher-mn > dharma (per the AHDIER)
> >>
> >>
> >> Can anyone clarify whether Themis and Dharma do, or do not,
share
> > the
> >> same PIE root?
>
> If you want a short answer, they don't. Skt. dHarma(n)- is derived
from
> dHarati 'hold, support', which contains PIE *dHer-. The Gk. stem
> tHemist- (with a short *e, which may come from *&1, but not *eh1!)
and
> its relation to *dHeh1- have been discussed here before, see in
particular:
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/45532
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/45553
>
> The legal connotations of *dHeh1- are well visible in Germanic (cf.
> English doom, deem).
>
> Piotr
>