Re: [tied] Re: Slavic endings

--- pielewe <wrvermeer@...> wrote:

I don't understand everything about the ordering you
describe.

> Slavic umlaut is the
> fronting of back vowels
> under the influence of preceding palatal consonants.

> When umlaut fronted long and short *a (later a and o
> respectively) it
> caused them to merge with long and short *e (later
> e^ and e),

But you also say that *ei>e: before this e:>i: so
older *e: must have already become distinct (e:>æ: for
example). This also means that umlaut changed a/a: >
æ/æ: just as u/u: > ü/ü: before these fronted vowels
lost most distinctions.

> Now "we" know that the progressive palatalization
> was later than the
> monophthongization of diphthongs, otherwise the
> reflex of *oi after
> velars affected by the progressive palatalization
> would not be e^
> (but **i).

So umlaut of oi>öi>ei then e:>i: then ei:>e: to
merge with æ:? When does oi>u:>y? I'm not clear on
the intermediate stages.

> Umlauted *u was still distinct from *i in the same
> position when the
> progressive palatalization took place, otherwise we
> can't explain the
> absence of the latter in *igo 'yoke'.

Didn't you say umlaut occurs after this
palatalization? Do you say j causes fronting earlier
than the consonants?







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