Re: [tied] Thematic root aorist

--- In cybalist@... s.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2006-07-19 18:46, Andrew Jarrette wrote:
>
> > But why
> > is the possibility of an independent IE aorist formation with
> > thematic vowel and zero grade completely rejected?
>
> Because the comparative evidence for such a formation has evaporated.
> It's just possible (but by no means certain) that a few such

forms were

> recognised as aorists already in PIE, but there's little doubt that the
> entire <ávidat> type is secondary. So is the <tudáti> type, its
> counterpart among the present stems, though verbs of this type are
> somewhat better attested. Perhaps some original root aorists tended to
> be thematised as presents (punctual meanings are common among the
> <tudáti> type).

I remember reading that the tudati type is occurs much more frequently
as injunctives in RV, rather than with primary endings. That would
suggest that (1) tudati was a replacement for tudat as the
injunctive went out of use and (2) this type may have gotten started
(as injunctives/ aorists) even in PIE times.
________

Just as a remark, I remember reading that the <tudáti> type is especially frequent with verbal prefixes (like <vi->, <ni->, <ati->, <ud->, and so on), and it being suggested that they arose from full grade forms that lost their accent in composition with these prefixes.  Any opinions about this?  I think I read it in "Hittite and the Indo-European Verb" by Jasanoff, 2003.

Andrew