Re: [tied] Re: Old swedish tungel, old english tungol

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 45229
Date: 2006-07-05

At 10:01:03 AM on Tuesday, July 4, 2006, Daniel J. Milton
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Carl Hult <datalampa@...>
> wrote:

>> I´ve started a discussion about the moon with my mother
>> on how old the worship of the moon may be. Halfway into
>> this discussion I reminded myself of a word I saw in
>> Hellquists linguistic dictionary over the swedish tongue,
>> namely tungel.

Also OIc <tungl>.

>> This word tungel meant star or moon in older swedish and
>> can still be found in dialects all over Sweden. I was
>> very intrigued to find that both german and english had
>> had this word too, in the same meaning. In old german it
>> can be found as Zungal, old saxon as tungal and in old
>> english as tungol. It seems to have died out on the
>> continent. Anyone who can explain this word to me? It
>> does not correspond with any of the other words for moon
>> or star or even heavenly body, which was the main meaning
>> in old swedish.

> The etymological dictionary at
> http://runeberg.org/svetym/0587.html has (under ma`ne)
> "samgermanskt ord av ovisst ursprung", which I take it
> means "common Germanic word of uncertain origin">

And it really is Common Gmc.: Gothic has <tuggl> 'Gestirn'.
The PGmc. is apparently a strong neuter *tungla-.

Brian