Re: [tied] Re: Labiovelar Phonological Identity???

C. Darwin Goranson schrieb:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cybalist%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cybalist%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "C. Darwin Goranson"
> > <cdog_squirrel@> wrote:
> > >
> > > That would be interesting to look at. As for Torsten's idea: er,
> > > could you give a couple of examples in Italian with labiovelar stops?
> > >
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> > quale "which"
> > quanto "when"
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> >
> > Torsten
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> Er, are those labio-velars or "labiovelar + w"s ? What would
> constitute the difference soundwise? (If possible, could you give
> examples to explain?)

the labiovelars seems to be a theoretical joker. By myelf I don't
consider them for have beeing for real. Instead of this I prefer the
Rumanian living system. There is "bi" versus "g_i" and "pi" versuch
"ki" as a matter of fact and as a living witness of this alternance,
regardless what was the reason of making bi/g_i and pi/ki as
alternant pair.

Alex