From: Andrew Jarrette
Message: 45171
Date: 2006-06-29
My Webster's New World College Dictionary of English, which contains IE etymologies of English words, says that Latin <tardus> (> English <tardy>) is "probably" from the IE base *ter- "delicate, weak" which > Greek <tere:n>, "tender". My question is how Latin /a/ would develop from a root with *e in this position. If /a/ in <tardus> is not derived from an original *e, then what is the origin of /a/ in this Latin word? This dictionary similarly derives Latin <mari:tus> "probably" from the IE base *meri "young wife", akin to *meryo-, "young man", in Sanskrit <marya-> "man, young man, suitor". If this is the basis of <mari:tus>, how would Latin /a/ derive from IE *e? I believe there are a significant number of other Latin words in this dictionary with /a/ held to be from *e. Under what conditions would IE *e become /a/ in Latin? Or is this dictionary wrong? Do words such as these suggest that there actually was an *a in IE, not only due to *h2e or *e after *k, *g, *gh? Could this supposed change of *e > /a/ account for the /a/ in <maneo>? (And could this account for cases of /a/ in Celtic as well (ref. my earlier question on the origin of Celtic /a/)?)I mention this issue in connection with the discussion about Latin /a/ from *o after labials.________________________I am sending this again because it seems my Yahoo mail did not send my first message for whatever reason:I forgot, in my discussion of possible Latin (and Celtic) *e > /a/, to mention the Latin words <labium> "lip" vs. OE (etc.) <lippa>, and <sapio:> "taste, know" (OHG <intseffen> "perceive") vs. OE (etc.) <sefa> "mind". These do not have nasalization and are not preceded and followed by *w or *u, so is *a or *e original, or are the Latin words with *a formations that are unrelated to the OE etc. formations with *e?Andrew