Re: [tied] Bellwood rejects the Pontic steppe homeland hypothesis

From: george knysh
Message: 45123
Date: 2006-06-26

--- mkelkar2003 <swatimkelkar@...> wrote:

> Bellwood rejects the Pontic steppe hypothesis.
....
The
> reconstructed PIE vocabulary
> was not exclusively pastoralist, and neither is the
> archaeological
> record entirely pastoralist from the relevant period
> on the steppes
> (Mallory 1997; Anthony and Brown 2000).

****GK: That is supposed to be an argument against the
Pontic hypothesis? (:=)))*****

Recent
> research on horse
> domestication archaeologist Marsha Levine (et. al
> 1999) suggests much
> later dates for horse riding, only late second
> millennium BC and thus
> irrelevant for PIE dispersal.

****GK: One reads this stuff and wonders "Did Cybalist
just start yesterday? Have all the archives been
jettisoned?" Marsha Levine's "suggestions" were
disposed of years ago....Check it out..*****

Many linguists are
> now willing to
> entertain suggestions that PIE could be older than
> 5000 years (see
> below),

****GK: Which linguist(s) think that PIE is younger?
I.e. posterior to 3000 BCE? *****

and the idea that the Anatolian languages
> were not native to
> Anatolia (and thus not relevant for IE homeland
> questions) has no
> strong factual basis. But the fundamental nail in
> the coffin of the
> Pontic steppes hypothesis was hammered by Colin
> Renfrew (1987),

*****GK: Give us a break....*****

when
> he asked how a KURGAN-based expansion of late
> Neolithic and Bronze Age
> conquering pastoralists across most of Europe could
> have left
> absolutely no corresponding continent-wide horizon
> in the
> archaeological record (Bellwood 2005, p. 204,
> emphasis in the original)."

*****GK: The Pontic hypothesis is not the same thing
as the Kurgan hypothesis... Someone needs an
elementary primer....*****

> Bellwood, Peter (2005), "First Farmers: The Origins
> of Agricultural
> Societies," Malden, MA, Oxford England: Blackwell
> Publishing
>
> M. Kelkar
>
>
>
>
>
>


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