[tied] Re: Black Athena: The Afroasiatic Roots of ClassicalCiviliza

You are attributing to me a lot of weird ideas that I don't share.

I am NOT talking about close genetical realtionships or not even
about loaned elements between AA and IE in any degree. I am talking
about sharing of Ideas between bilingual speakers of neighbour
languages, or about psychological conditioning, and that those ideas
have had an influence upon the grammatical structure of Greek and
Romance.

This is a process I can observe daily in my own language, Norwegian.
In norwegian English-like syntax is steadily more often heared in
some areas of the grammar, but not in all.

And, in the language of young people, even some Arabic elements has
crept in from Arabic-Norwegian bilingual speakers.

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In the Oslo dialect of Norwegian that I speak daily, there are both
glottal stops (not written) and the letter "h" often pronounced as
a pharyngeal spirant. This does not at all give me any silly idea
about any close genetic relationship between Norwegian and AA. I do
not even attribute it to any foreign influence at all.


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--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "mkelkar2003" <swatimkelkar@...>
wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "aquila_grande" <aquila_grande@>
> wrote:
> >
> > No, the Germanic languages were not influenced directly by AA,

but

> > they had contact with Romance and Probably Greek that had been
> > influenced by AA.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > At 4:19:50 PM on Monday, June 5, 2006, aquila_grande wrote:
> > >
> > > >> There is no reason to attribute any of these to AA
>
> Christopher Culvert's review of
>
> Sprung from Some Common Source: Investigations into the Prehistory

of

> Languages (Hardcover)
> by Sydney M. Lamb, E. Douglas Mitchell, Stanford University Press
> (August 1991) on Amazon.com
>
> "For example, he (Saul Levin) asserts that (non-phonemic) initial
> glottal stop in Germanic is a special sign of Semitic influence.
> Granted, the initial glottal stop was a feature of many
> Proto-Indo-European words if we assume a CVC structure, and

Germanic

> has preserved this when it was lost elsewhere. Levin himself

admirably

> pointed this out in a 1979 paper published in General Linguistics.
> Yet, there's no reason to assume a close relationship between
> Proto-Semitic and Proto-Indo-European. Many languages have the

glottal

> stop, it would be is like saying English and Mari are close because
> they both have voiced dental fricatives. I think Levin himself
> realizes this, because he admittedly chooses to ignore the

existence

> of the Afro-Asiatic family, which would undercut his argument.

That's

> poor scholarship."
>
> posted by M. Kelkar
>