From: Andrew Jarrette
Message: 44854
Date: 2006-06-01
I invite to the following site where you can get exact Hertz number
of the Swedish vowels as well as listen to them:
http://www.ling.su.se/staff/hartmut/svok.htm________________Thank you for referring me to that informative website, however I do not have the necessary audio software on my computer to be able to listen to the vowels here. I guess I will have to try to find someone of Swedish origin here in Ottawa, Canada and ask them to please recite all the Swedish vowels for me. But it's hard to find people of Swedish origin in Ottawa, especially more recent generations.
Lars:
There you can hear the difference between vowels with friction and
those without. A warning though: the /ä/ is pronounced too open by
the Stockholmers who in their dialect are unable to distinguish
between /e/ and /ä/. (It's a good thing that they don't display
their vulgar /xw/ on the world wide web!)______________________You say that /ä/ is pronounced too open by Stockholmers, who also do not distinguish between /e/ and /ä/ -- this implies that Stockholmers pronounce /e/ as far open as they do /ä/, and that this pronunciation of /e/ is more open than the pronunciation of /ä/ by non-Stockholmers (and therefore much more open than non-Stockholmers' pronunciation of /e/, assuming that /e/ is supposed to be more closed than /ä/). Is that correct? Also, are you saying that Stockholmers pronounce [sj] differently than the majority of (southern) Swedes, as /xw/ rather than the labial sibilant? I thought Stockholm would have been the origin of the labial sibilant.
Andrew