Re: [tied] Palatals, labials and velars in Swedish

I only heard it spoken but I peered at the ground and it looked like dogshit to me.

Andrew Jarrette <anjarrette@...> wrote:

squilluncus <grvs@...> wrote:

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Rick:
Last month I had a Swedish university professor from the U Stockholm
tell me to be careful not to step in the , I'm guessing
this is the sound you're talking about.

Lars:
Exactly.

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I am very curious to know what this /hondxweyt/ is. Would that be spelled [håndskejt]?

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Squilluncus answering Andrew:
It is a bit of a mystery. Try imagining blowing out a candle having
a big chew of bread on top of your tongue.

Lars:
Swedish possesses a peculiar articulation of lips. The sje consonant
is (by me and many unchic persons of my generation) pronounced
entirely by using the lips only for sibilation.
Then there is the vowel sound written U, which is very pointed (more
than Québecois titUbant).

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I believe I once saw the Swedish "long u" sound transcribed as /yw/, while its "long y" was transcribed as /yj/. Are such transcriptions accurate, or are they simplifications/just plain wrong?

Lars:
It is an irony of fate that Swedes are the leading addicts in the world of enjoying ground tobacco tucked under the lip (upper,
mostly): lip-snuff. This is of course a major threat to the system
and the most safe place for articulating sounds without
disequilibrating the tucked in snuff is velars. /x/ has everything
for a future success.
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Maybe they can make the Swedish [sj]-sound when they spit it out.

Andrew

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