[tied] Re: trzymac'

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Mate Kapoviæ <mkapovic@...> wrote:

I had written:

> > ... Kortlandt does not talk about the
> > alternation of seNdzic' vs. saNdzisz, but about the accentuation
of the
> > noun meaning 'judge', i.e. *soNdIji, which does have the suffix *-
Ij-.
> > As far as I know (but I may be mistaken), the alternation
seNdzic' vs.
> > saNdzisz is not treated anywhere in his work. Indeed I vividly
recall
> > him saying at some point in the mid seventies that he felt that
that
> > was the only more or less serious problem in Slavic accentology
his
> > theory failed to account for. Of course I am not in a position to
tell
> > whether or not he would still say that today.


Then Mate wrote:

> It's not a misunderstanding. Cf.
> http://www.kortlandt.nl/publications/art222e.pdf
>
> Side 15 (his IWoBA 1 contribution).


Thanks, I hadn't noticed that, and don't recall ever having seen it.
It obviously needs a lot more backing if he wants to convince people.


Then Mate wrote:

> Kortlandt is forced to reconstruct an
> some imaginary form *soNdIjiti or something like that in order to
explain
> what is regular in my theory.
>
> I am afraid that is not just a minor problem, it is a clear
indication
> that Kortlandt's whole theory on pretonic length is false (its
relation to
> Dybo's Law etc.). There is just no way to explain Slovincian, Old
Polish,
> Kajkavian and Molise Croatian data with it. These dialects preserve
the
> old pattern of short (pretonic) vowel in the a. p. b infinitive,
but a
> long (neo-acute) vowel in the present tense. This cannot be an
innovation,
> while the long vowel in the infinitive (as found in Modern Polish,
Czech,
> Slovak, Croatian etc.) is easily explained by the analogy to the
present
> tense. And this is not just a construct since this secondary
introducing
> of length to the infinitive is clear in the historical development
of
> Polish and it is also seen synchronically in Kajkavian, where some
> dialects have generalized length, and some do not.
>

I heard you the first time!


Willem