Re: [tied] Re: i-verbs in Baltic and Slavic

From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 44689
Date: 2006-05-24

On Wed, 24 May 2006 07:25:09 +0000, tgpedersen
<tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 23 May 2006 09:27:01 +0000, tgpedersen
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>>
>> >>
>> >> This takes me back to an old idea of mine, that the
>> >> causative-iterative is an old compund of verbal root
>> >> (showing o-grade with "Rasmussen infix", which must have
>> >> some meaning) plus the verb "to make" [ = Hittite iyami,
>> >> iyezzi etc.]
>> >
>> >Have you presented this idea somewhere before?
>>
>> Here, if I remember correctly.
>>
>
>Before this one, presumably?
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/38701

Message
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/14053> from
July 17 2002.

The brief recapitulation I was looking for yesterday is in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/14111>,
where it says:

>As for me, the reason for believing that *-ey{e/o} is in fact an
>incorporated verb is as follows:
>
>* In Sanskrit, -aya- alternates with -paya- as the iterative/causative
>suffix, -paya being used after verbal stems ending in a laryngeal
>(i.e. in a vowel, after the loss of laryngeals).
>
>* If -aya- and -paya- are variants of the same entity, and if the -p-
>is not a feature of the preceding verbal stem, then p- must be a
>prefix.
>
>* The only prefix I know in PIE of the shape p- is the preverb *pe(:)-
>/ po-.
>
>* Therefore, the entity *ey-{e/o} must a verb.
>
>* The Hittite thematic verb iyami can be derived from *ey-{e/o}-mi,
>and the semantics ("do, make") are impeccable.


I also mentioned it in a message to Indoeuropean@...
dated March 9, 2001.

>I worries me that I might have copied an idea from someone else,
>without being consciously aware of it.

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
mcv@...