[tied] Re: Idea of PIEan expansion - "business takeovers" on major

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "andrew_and_inge"
<andrew.lancaster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "ehlsmith" <ehlsmith@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@>
> > wrote:
> > ..............
> > > Curiously, I myself have the J2 haplotype even though my Mc
> > Callister ancestors arrived in the US from Belfast c. 1750 or

so.

> My
> > closest genetic relatives on websites, other than some other Mc
> > Callisters, are in Central Asia, the Middle East and Eastern
> Europe and
> > tend to be Kahane or Muslims.
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm being a nitpicker, but isn't it rather misleading
> to
> > say "closest genetic relatives" when comparing less than .00005

of

> the
> > genome?
>
> It is not clear whether you realise it, so I'll point it out: the

Y

> chromosome, while it indeed does really show "relatedness" in the
> everyday sense (because in fact it carries very few working

genes),

> is passed on in near perfect copies from father to son, and so it

is

> very useful for trying to trace one ancestral line out of the
> thousands we have, and therefore it is useful for studying ancient
> migrations, especially males are felt to have played a key role.
>
> Mitochondrial DNA, similarly, is passed from mothers to children.
>
> Best Regards
> Andrew
>

Useful?

If we will name "the alpha-father" the original possesor of the Y-
Chromozone => for sure you have his Y Chromozone

But you don't know anything of "the others 1000... fathers" of
your "mathers" => and for sure their "traces" are present too in
the "other Chromozones"

So this Y-determination tell you Only that "your father has for sure
that 'alpha-father' among your ancestors" and nothing more...

See below a diagram of '5-generations' (125-150 years) "in which"
where we already have "7 fathers" to imagine how many ancestors are
not taken into account in relation with the other Chromozones

1-----2------3-------4-------5
Y1----|
X1----Y1

Y2----|
X2----X2----Y1

Y3----|
X3----X3----X3------Y1
Y3'---Y3'---|

Y4-----|
X4----X4----X4------X4------Y1
Y4'---Y4'---| |
|
Y4''--------Y4''-----


Marius