[tied] Re: Idea of PIEan expansion - "business takeovers" on major

From: andrew_and_inge
Message: 44451
Date: 2006-05-01

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
wrote:
>
> You're absolutely right, I'm referring only to that marker.
> But in the interest of getting back on topic.
> What are the Y & Mitochondrial DNA markers associated with the
spread of IE?
> How are they related to other markers?
> E.g. Is I --associated with the Viking/Scandinavian expansion,
as I seem to remember-- a relatively recent split from J? I saw this
in some publication.
> Is R assocated with pre-IE Western Europeans?

I is certainly seperate from J already in prehistoric times, but it
depends what you mean by relatively recent. I is only associated
with the Norse in Britain and other North Sea countries where it
appears to have entered recently. In Central and Eastern Europe I is
widespread and diverse.

In Western Europe, (France, Iberia, Britain, Ireland) on the other
hand, R1b (M269) haplotypes are certainly most common and it seems
certain that they were in pre IE times also.

When you refer to "R" you are too non-specific I think. R haplotypes
such as R1a are found as far East as Mongolia.

Just to remind everyone, these clade names using letters are all
referring to patrilineal "Y" DNA "families".

Best Regards
Andrew