From: Rob
Message: 44094
Date: 2006-04-03
>I agree here, and would like to add that the contrastive accent may be
> Nomina (ctd.)
>
> Contrastive accent and secondary full grades
>
> Substantives tend to be distinguished from related adjectives by
> means of contrastive accent. The phenomenon can be illustrated with
> such pairs as *bHór-o-s 'load, burden' : *bHor-ó- 'carrying', both
> from the root *bHer- 'carry'). Note that in this case we are not
> dealing with straightforward substantivisation -- there is a
> diathetic contrast between the agentive meaning of the adjective and
> the passive/resultative meaning of the noun ('something carried');
> agent nouns like *bHor-ó-s 'carrier' are not distinguished from
> adjectives. Feminine abstracts are accented on the thematic element
> (*bHor-á-h2) irrespective of whether the focus is on an activity
> ('act of carrying') or the corresponding state ('being carried,
> motion').
> The unstressed o-vocalism of the *bHor-ó-/*bHor-áh2- type has beenRegrettably, I cannot agree with Jens' theory at the present time.
> exhaustively treated by Jens Rasmussen, who was kind enough to
> present a convenient summary here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/30940
> The tendency to use contrastive accent must have operated throughoutHmm. With all due respect, I fail to see how a full vowel could
> the history of PIE and into the early "dialectal" stages. Several
> chronological layers can be discerned. To begin with the oldest,
> there was a time when accent retraction to a formerly unaccented
> syllable caused the appearance of a full vowel there, while the
> syllable that had lost its accent was phonetically reduced.
> In particular, thematic *-o- became *-u-. Let us imagine a root likeTo me, this does not necessarily follow. Could it be possible, at
> *kret- (a real example, with the approximate meaning of
> 'strengthen'. The addition of anaccented adjectival suffix like
> *-ró- forms a verbal adjective: *krt-ró- 'strengthened',
> dissimilated to *krt-ó-.
> Accent retraction produces the noun *krét-u-s 'being strong, power'.How likely do you think it is that the speakers would be aware of the
> Note that the full vowel is inserted where it belongs, which means
> that at that stage speakers were aware of the underlying vocalism of
> the root: perhaps the actual realisation of the weak grade at that
> time was *kr&t-, with an appreciable (even if reduced) vowel. Later
> an adjective was formed from *krét-u- by another application of the
> principle of contrastive accent, this time yielding *kr.t-ú- (at a
> time when a stressed zero grade was already possible, but loss of
> accent still caused vowel reduction).
> More recently, a similar scenario was re-enacted. From the root nounI'm afraid I cannot respond to this effectively without more
> *djeu- 'the bright sky, heaven' it's possible to derive thematic
> *diw-ó- 'belonging to heaven, celestial', and then (on the analogy
> of nouns like *krétu-) *déiw-o-s 'celestial being, deity'. Here the
> vowel was inserted in the _wrong_ place, since the weak grade *diw-,
> with the unstressed vowel reduced to zero, had become ambiguous. PIE
> speakers had the same difficulty with other *CREC roots, which often
> developed secondary full grades of the form *CERC. Note also that
> the post-tonic reduction of the thematic vowel was no longer
> obligatory at the stage in question. However, qualitative ablaut was
> still productive, so when a new adjective of belonging was formed
> from *déiw-o-s, it took the form of *[deiwo-]-ó- --> *diwi-ó-
> 'belonging to the gods, divine, heavenly' (Skt. divyá-, Gk. di^os <
> *diwios). Still later, another contrastive accent shift produced
> another adjective without causing any segmental effects: *deiw-ó-
> 'divine'.
> The most recent layer contains cases like *mr.-tó- 'dead' vs.I would agree that, in the last stage(s) of IE, any vocalic phoneme
> *mr.'-to- 'murder (PGmc. *murDa-) or RV krs.n.á- 'black' vs.
> kr.'s.n.a- 'blackness; a kind of dark antelope' or Kr's.n.a- (the
> god).