Re: [tied] Re: IE root melH-

On 3/31/06, Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

 

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From: Abdullah Konushevci

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Subject: [tied] Re: IE root melH-

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "bily_dim" <bily_dim@...> wrote:
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> Dear colleagues,
> what could you say about the identification of the laryngeal in the
IE
> root melH- "to grind"?
>
> Biliana Mihaylova
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I think that it will be *H1, for Alb. <blozhdë> 'perforated
thoroughly' should be probably from *mleH1-zd-eH2 > mle:-zd-aH2 >
blozhdë, for *e: > Alb. /o/.

Konushevci

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Patrick:

 

I doubt very seriously that <blozhdë> is derived from *m.lé(:); the semantics just do not match. 

 

The commonest attested PIE formative with verbs, in my uninteresting opinion, was -*Ha (from Nostratic -*?a), which created a stative verbal form.

 

Because of its constitution with /a/, the laryngealist's equivalent would be *H2.

 

We actually have some IE forms which can be derived from *m.l6Ha(:) (*mla:), which meant 'ground up, pulverized'.

 

*H1 (my *He) is not known by me to be a verbal formant (extension).

 

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As well Alb. <bluej/bluaj> 'to grind, crush, mill' should be from *mleH1-n-yo > ble:nyo, for long *e is usually diphthonged followed by nasal.

Konushevci