Re: [tied] Rounding (was: Greek labiovelars)

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 43903
Date: 2006-03-17

--- "Anders R. Joergensen" <ollga_loudec@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:

> > In Irish CW causes rounding, in Welsh w causes
> > rounding (in some environments, possibly
> irregular);
> > uper- moves through stages with both causes of
> > rounding in my view.
>
> But Ir. for? it has simple *w-, not *CW-.

In my earlier derivation p>f>xW, e>o after xW,
xW>h>0, u>w. So rounding at a stage with xW.

> > Are there any cases of final CW from initial
> > kW/gW/gWH the newly rounded C's can be compared
> to?

> Labiovelar rounding has only been demonstrated for
> stressed vowels,
> as far as I know and only when the labiovelar
> precedes the vowel.
>
> You don't get rounding in, e.g. ech 'horse' < *exWa-
> < *ekWo-. Or is
> that not what you're saying?

No, I was wondering if V>u in the same position
before final Cu and gW/kW etc. I think the -a would
prevent or restore e>i>e there.

I think I found an example, OIr escung "fen-snake" <
* h2angWHis / h2ngWHis? where it seems the vowel is
rounded due to following CW not u.



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