Re: [tied] Rounding (was: Greek labiovelars)

--- "Anders R. Joergensen" <ollga_loudec@...>
wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
> > --- "Anders R. Joergensen" <ollga_loudec@...>
> > > > > for- is probably not a case of rounding, but

> > > > It could be analogy, but if the other
> examples
> > > are
> > > > true it's not necessary.

> > > Well then you just give up explaining the
> British
> > > Celtic reflex
> > > *wor...

> > I'm not giving up; initial w in P-Celtic can
> cause
> > rounding independent of the Irish types.

> Well, if we ignore British Celtic *wor (and I don't
> see how we can),
> you still can't assume a change of initial *we- >
> fo- (or *wi- > *fu-
> for that matter) in Irish. What about fer < *werah <
> *wiros, feithid
> < *wet-e-, feidid < *wed-e- etc.? Or am I missing a
> point?

In Irish CW causes rounding, in Welsh w causes
rounding (in some environments, possibly irregular);
uper- moves through stages with both causes of
rounding in my view.

> > Sihler says final u causes rounding and drops;
> > spelling daur indicating darW etc., and if so the
> > roundings would be for the same reason at the same
> > time.
>
> Yes, but not the same thing and certainly not
> conditioned in the
> same way.

Are there any cases of final CW from initial
kW/gW/gWH the newly rounded C's can be compared to?


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