[tied] Re: ph3 > b -> Albanian dë-borë Romanian zãpada and Dacia

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> <akonushevci@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"

<alexandru_mg3@>

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
> > > <akonushevci@> wrote:
> > > > So, d- si a
> > > > prefix (see *ad- 'to, near, at' in Albanian Inherited

Lexicon

> > (1))
> > > > and -ë in this case is just a filler to avoid hard contact

of

> two
> > > > voiced stops. In this case, <dë-borë> is just prefixed form.
> > >
> > >
> > > Is what I have said also: having borë and dë-borë for sure

that

> d-
> >
> > > or dë- is a prefix. Please read my postings again, I have said
> the
> > > same thing.
> > >
> > > If the root was *apa- 'water' > *apa-da-ra/*aba-da-ra for sure

dz-

> > apa-
> > > da-ra is a prefixed form, isn't it? (as I have already said)
> > >
> > >
> > > Where I not agree with you: is the etymology of this prefix :
> > > 'near' to what? 'snow' = 'near snow'? or 'snow' = 'at snow'
> > or 'snow'
> > > ='to snow'...This doesn't have any sense...
> > >
> > > So the d- here is more probable from the same phonetic pattern

as

> > in
> > > Alb. dhemjë versus Alb vemjë > PAlb *dz-o:mida:/*o:mida: =>
> > Romanian
> > > omidã
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Marius
> > ************
> > No, v ~ dh alternation is similar to f ~ th: i thellë ~ i
> > fellë 'deep', thëmijë ~ fëmijë 'child', therrë ~ ferrë.
> > See for other cases Albanian Inherited Lexicon.
> >
> > Konushevci
>
> There isn't any dh~v alternation in dhemjë ~ vemjë
>
> An initial o:- passed to ve- (etc...) and an internal -o:- passed

to

> e (with the known exceptions)
>
> So we have Only o:- in vemjë and *dz- + o: in dhemjë
>
> Best Regards,
> Marius

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For, you say so, isn't it!

Konushevci