--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> wrote:
> > II. Of course this pb need to be clarified if is was really pb
etc...
> > [like: maybe it was: ph3 > pH > b in Albanian and 'evolved'
> > different in Romanian-Substratum for some contexts]
> >
> > But anyway finally we 'are obliged' to explain also why the
> > intervocalic b in Romanian abur is still there...And there is a
> > single answer: because it wasn't a simple b at that time...
>
>
> Same for Alb. dëborë 'snow' : finally we 'are obliged' to explain
also
> why the intervocalic b in Albanian dëborë is still there (because
> Albanian & Romanian share the same rule b/intervocalic>zero...And
> there is a single answer: because it wasn't a simple b at that
time...
>
> Marius
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Even it be wiser to not reply at all in such kinds of posts, I think
that I have to clarify something: <dëborë> is Tosk variant and only
in some idioms, until <borë> is common Albanian form. So, d- si a
prefix (see *ad- 'to, near, at' in Albanian Inherited Lexicon (1))
and -ë in this case is just a filler to avoid hard contact of two
voiced stops. In this case, <dë-borë> is just prefixed form.
I don't see where did you see weakness of my derivation of Alb.
<borë> 'snow' from *bheH2-ro>*ba:-ro as substantivized adjective
(see Albanian Inherited Lexicon in Cybalist).
Nor Albanian, neither PAlb didn't share common word for "snow" that
is *snoigWh-: OE sna:w: Lat nix 'id.' from zero-grade form *snigWh-:
Sl sneg 'id.'. But, if my rule *-gWh > Palb /h/ is true and I backed
it up with more than three examples: *legWh-/*ln.gWh- > Alb. <leh-
të> 'light'; *e:gWh- 'to drink' > Alb. <d-eh> 'to get drunk', we may
freely assume that Alb. <dejë> 'place where snow is melted' is
probably from much older form <nehë> and this one from *snoigWh-eH2.
*sn-, as in Latin, has as outcome Alb. /n/.
Konushevci