From: Petr Hrubis
Message: 43699
Date: 2006-03-08
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"That's right. Cf. also the Czech <zapr^ic^init> "to
> <alexandru_mg3@...>
> wrote:
> >
>
> > But even we take *pri as 'a presence' it doesn't
> > help us to obtain *pric^ina meaning.
>
> I hasten to agree to the extent that the distance
> from the attested
> meanings of the Slavic word(s) and the relevant
> Rumanian item does
> not seem to have been bridged satisfactorily, at
> least in the
> postings I have seen.
>
> My own posting was the fruit of sleeplessness and
> doesn't express
> what I intended it to express, which was the
> following:
>
> Although it is possible to derive the meaning
> 'cause' from the
> meaning of the component parts of "pric^initi" and
> "pric^ina", that
> meaning does not appear to be old, at least its
> oldest attestations
> appear to post-date OCS by several centuries.
> Considering the
> abstract meaning of the word there is a possibility
> that it arose in
> learned circles.
>
>
> On the other hand it is striking that Russian
> "pric^init'" 'cause'
> (which stylistically feels like a Slavonicism and
> has the
> corresponding stress pattern) is firmly associated
> with negative
> phenomena such as pain, harm, sorrow, and loss. If
> that association
> is already present in Bulgarian (the first place to
> look if you are
> discussing the Slavic elements of Rumanian and the
> Church Slavonic
> part of the Russian lexicon), the drift to the type
> of meaning
> attested in Rumanian may become understandable after
> all.