Re: [tied] Re: PIE prek'- ; prok' ; prk'- 'to ask'

From: Petr Hrubis
Message: 43697
Date: 2006-03-08

--- alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "pielewe"
> <wrvermeer@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Petr Hrubis
> <hrubisp@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *pri- may also mean "to" (Czech pr^ipsat "add
> > > writing", pr^ide^lat "to put to, add to" etc.)
> > >
> > > pri:c^ina "cause" can thus be understood as
> something
> > > that was "added to reach a goal", hence a
> "cause".
> > >
> >
> > One of the values of *pri- is 'presence', say
> "privesti" (*ved-
> > ) 'cause somebody to be present by leading
> him/her'
> > (= 'bring'), "prizUvati" 'cause somebody to be
> present by calling'
> > (= 'invite'), so "pric^initi" is 'cause something
> to be present by
> > performing some action on it', which to me seems a
> good way to
> > say 'cause'.
> >
> >
> > Willem
>
>
> More logical is to decompose privesti in pri-
> 'at' + vesti 'look'
> => so 'to look at'. But even we take *pri as 'a

<pri> "to, ad" + <vesti> "lead" = "to lead to, bring"
<pri> "to, ad" + <vezti> "carry, drive" = "to carry
about, bring"
<pri> "to, ad" + <dati> "give, put" = "to add"
<pri> "to, ad" + <c^initi (se)> "to do, to make" = "to
help to do st., to join, to get involved in an
activity" -> "to be a cause" (a good or bad one)

Cf. also Czech:
<pr^imluvit se> = <pr^i> + <mluvit> "speak" = "put in
a word for"
<pr^iznat se> = <pr^i> + <znát> "to know" = "to
confess, to admit (!)"
..etc. eg. <pr^ile:zt> "come crawling" and so on...

I can't see any obstacle in semantics...but maybe I'm
blind...or just have a too vivid imagination...

Petusek



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