Re: [tied] Re: Question on "question"

From: whitedawn
Message: 43586
Date: 2006-02-28

All the words in Indo-European languages containing consonant's group "brg/kh" (prg/kh, vrg/kh, frg/kh) must have the same basis. The chance resemblance among IE tongues is logically unthinkable. The meaning of "br" is "inverse" (negative, convert, opposite) while the "g" (gn) indicates a certain kind of motion. Actually brg(n) should be considered as a kind of "opposite driving". For instance, English break is related to Serb "preki-nuti" (O.E. brecan (class IV strong verb; past tense bræc, pp. brocen), from P.Gmc. *brekan (cf. O.Fris. breka, Du. breken, O.H.G. brehhan, Ger. brechen, Goth. brikan), from PIE base *bhreg- "to break" ), brake to Serb. "priko-čiti" (prikogni > braking), press to "prezati" (pregne), bridge to Serb. prečka ( O.E. brycge, from P.Gmc. *brugjo (cf. O.N. bryggja, Ger. Brücke), from PIE base *bhru "log, beam," hence "wooden causeway" (cf. Gaul. briva "bridge," O.C.S. bruvuno "beam," Serb. brvno "footbridge").

 

Ger. "fragen" and Gk. phrásis "speech, way of speaking, phraseology," from phrazein "to express, tell," from phrazesthai "to consider", as we can see, are coming from the same, above-mentioned basis (brg). In fact Gr. phráze and Ger. fragen could be compared with Serb. prositi “to ask, beg”, Skt. prasna-, Avestan frashna- "question;" O.C.S. prositi, Lith. prasyti "to ask, beg;" O.H.G. frahen, Ger. fragen, O.E. fricgan "to ask" a question, Avestan peresaiti "interrogates," O.H.G. forskon, Ger. forschen "to search, inquire.

 

O.E. predician, L. prædicatorem (Serb. pridika, predanje from br-da-gna, obr-do-uka; oko eye, pl. oči eyes, učiti learn; it means “to show the other aspect of one thing”. A loan word from Church L., reborrowed 12c. as preachen, from O.Fr. prechier has nothing to do with “predican” but with Serb. pričanje “telling the story”; basis obr-gna; obraćanje (obr-gna/gna; obrnuto gonjenje “opposite driving”) communication.

 

If we want to understand the English “brain” we must go to Gr. sophron (gen. sophronos) "discreet, prudent," prop. "of sound mind” and Serb.. adj. sabran composed, calm and verb sabirati “to collect”, sabrati se “come to senses”, (Eng, sober, Serb, sabor, assembly zbor, zboriti talk, speak). The basis of all these words is sur-br-gna. Lat. cerebrum is “a collector of thoughts”, Serb. sabor uma, herbarium, harbor, her-br-gna, Serb. govorenje “speech”, i.e. kerebrum, Serb. govor uma “speech of mind”.

 

 O.E. wyrcan (past tense worhte, pp. geworht), from P.Gmc. *wurkijanan; and O.E. wircan "to work, operate, function," formed relatively late from P.Gmc. noun *werkan, Serb. vrh “apex, peak”, verb vršiti “practice”; from basis br-gn (breg “berg”). Cf. Serb. pregnuće “endeavor, enterprise” and Gr. praktike “practice”

 

 O.E. ascian "ask," from earlier ahsian, from P.Gmc. *aiskojan (cf. O.S. escon, O.Fris. askia, M.Du. eiscen, O.H.G. eiscon, Ger. heischen "to ask, demand"), from PIE *ais- "to wish, desire" (cf. Skt. icchati "seeks, desires," Arm. aic "investigation," O.C.S. iskati "to seek," Lith. ieskau "to seek", Serb. iskati “ask” (basis sa-gna/gna, Serb. znanje “knowledge”, mozak brain, mozganje “thinking”.

 

 

Dušan Vukotić

 

PS

Above explanation is just an outline of many things, which I should and could arrange more precisely.

There are no secrets in IE that could not be entirely unfolded. 

  

 


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
< cdog_squirrel@...>  wrote:
>
>
 Is there a connection between the German "fragen" (meaning "to ask")
>
 and the root verb in Greek for the 1st person present "phráze" ("to
>  tell", I think)?
>
********
  No.  And why should there be, since the meanings are opposites?
 
From Watkins:
 
fragen  < --  prek-
To ask, entreat. Oldest form *pre-, becoming *prek- in centum
languages.1. Basic form *prek-. pray, prayer1, precarious; deprecate,
imprecate, prie-dieu, from *prex, prayer (attested only in the plural
precs), with Latin denominative precr, to entreat, pray. 2. Suffixed
zero-grade form *pk-sk- becoming *pork-sk-, contracted to *posk- in
suffixed form *posk-to-, contracted to *posto-. postulate;
expostulate, from Latin postulre, to ask, request. (Pokorny 4. per- 821.)
 
 
'phrazein" < -- gwhren-
To think. 1. frantic, frenetic, frenzy, –phrenia, phreno-; phrenitis,
from Greek phrn, the mind, also heart, midriff, diaphragm. 2. Extended
zero-grade root form *gwhr-d-. phrase; holophrastic, metaphrase,
paraphrase, periphrasis, from Greek phrazein, to point out, show.
(Pokorny ghren- 496.)
 
Dan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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