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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, macfaust@... wrote:
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> Marius,
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> You would not have written what you did had you been aware of the
Hindutva
> (fundamentalist Hindu) attempt to get California textbooks
rewritten recently
> to reflect their beliefs (faith, not science).
I'm not aware Michael, about the Hindtuva web sites or lists (I'm
not interested on them), so I really made reference only on Mr.
Kelkar's postings on this forum.
Mr Kelkar' positions here, were in my opinion decents ones. He
strongly believe that Indo-Aryans homeland was from the beginning in
today India, maybe this is a wrong scientific consideration but is
not an indecent one: this is his faith and his point of interest
here.
From my point of view: Mr. Kelkar was a rational person in all his
postings that I read, even some of his conclusions could be of
course, wrong ones (->but I need to recognize that I didn't read all
of them)
> I wonder what you mean by "dangerous", Marius, when you attack
Daniel for
> trying to tell the truth?
The dangereous thing, here Michael is to accusse so easy somebody
as 'Fundamentalist' ('Fundamentalist' is an up-to-date term use
today for any kind of 'bad person').
You cannot accusse of Nazism a person that will quote Hitler, for
example, or of Communism a person that will quote Lenin etc...
If, by chance, I will agree on some specific points with Lenin or
with Hitler (they have asserted a lot of different things during
their lifes), this doesn't mean that I agree with everything they
have said or did, or that I will become a communist or a nazist.
I want to remember you here, that in the past, Heidegger was
accused of Nazism and Sartre was accused of Communism
Or changing the reference point: do we need to see (today) Leni
Riefenstahl's movies or not ? (even a Nazi' propaganda was obvious
present inside). Is "OLYMPIA" a kind of 'Fundamentalist' movie
talking about the "übermenschlich". For sure it is. But it's Olympia
a MasterPiece also? For sure.
Or do we need to see (today) Sergei Eisenstein movies like "The
Battleship Potemkin"? For sure we need. Is the Communist propaganda
obvious inside this movie? For sure it is. Is "Ivan Grozny" a kind
of 'Fundamentalist' movie talking about the 'Great Russia'? For sure
it is.
But: are "Ivan Grozny" and "The Battleship Potemkin" MasterPieces?
For sure they are.
So for the reasons above, I 'don't like at all' all these types
of 'incomplete inductions' and 'easy generalizations' that qualified
in 5 seconds...a person as 'a fundamentalist' (=>that means 'a kind
of criminal' in a 'free-translation' context imposed by today
realities)
To come back on the topic with a conclusion: Mr. Kelkar can be
responsible only for its own assertions, not for all the assertions
that could exist on a site, even if it is one that Mr. Kelkar quoted
here.
Please trust me, I know very well this type of ideological
accusations and wrong generalizations (very often used by the
communist regims in the past but not only by them)
If Mr. Kelkar did some indecent/bad assertions on this forum
please quote his words here and for sure he will be ban by Piotr or
by any other Moderator here; as on my side I will be the first
person to blame him here too, related to his position.
But please do not accusse him for some texts on a site that is not
constructed by him, even he quoted that site here.
And if Mr. Kelkar believes that the original place of Indo
Europeans was India ? So what? If this is his faith and he will
argue here based on it? What you will propose here? Mr. Kelkar not
to be Mr. Kelkar and to assert here things that he doesn't trust at
all?
Mr. George claims here that South Ukraine was the homeland of Indo-
Europeans: claiming that a steppe is the ideal environment for the
spreading of this type of civilization.
I believe on my side that the Danube river is the most ideal
place (note here that I'm Romanian :) )
But finally, these are one of the reasons that this forum is so
attractive: persons with strong motivations each of them sustaining
their own faiths arrive here and post in relation with their own
points of interests. But finally don't worry, the wrong arguments
and the valid ones will arrive to be very visible.
I know also, that you have only good intentions when you wrote your
message.
Only The Bests,
Marius