Re: The personal pronouns of PIE (and other families) are loans

From: g
Message: 43033
Date: 2006-01-19

> According to a short sketch of Platt grammar I have (but not here),
> nouns are inflected like this:
> m.sg.nom. 'der', oblique 'den'
> f.sg. all cases 'de'
> n.sg. all cases 'dat'
> pl. all cases 'de'
>
> which is pretty much the system, Dutch had until around 1930(?).
> Loss of 'den' (substituted with 'de') made the case system collapse,
> and merged m. and f.
>
> Same book says western dialects have -(e)n in all persons in the pl.
> of verbs (also like Dutch (and Western Middle English?)), those to
> east have -(e)t (cf the bumper sticker "wi snackt platt").
>
> And on the subject of collapse of inflectional systems: Apart from
> the Scandinavian languages the only other examples I know of
> languages which have lost all inflection for person and number in
> the verb are those dialects of Latvian that are spoken on former
> Livonian territory in the north of the country.
>
> Torsten

cf:

Plattmasters plattdüütsche Grammatik
http://www.plattmaster.de/gramm1.htm

Radio Bremen Plattdeutsch newscasts
http://www.radiobremen.de/bremeneins/platt/news/

Neddersassische un oostnedderdüütsche Utgaav vun Wikipedia
http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6%C3%B6ftsiet

http://nds.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sass

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Lëtzebuergesch German
http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haapts%C3%A4it

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AngloSaxon
http://ang.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C4%93afods%C4%ABde

George