From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 42486
Date: 2005-12-13
>This word was (at least) once discussed on the list.Could you give me teh reference of that messages
>George
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tolgs001" <st-george@...> wrote:
>
> >PIE gle:-(w)-ro > PAlb./Dacian? gle:-(w)ra > PAlb./Dacian? gla:(w)
ra
> >(:) > ORom. gl'a-ra > [gl' > ghi /gi/] > Rom. gheara /gjara/
>
> As I once mentioned, in north-western Romanian subdialects, the
> pronunciation is neither ['gja-r@], nor ['gea-r@], but with a
> palatal [g] or a palatal [d] -- so much so that there is no need
> for any [ja] or [ea] diphtong. (Your own subdialect has it too.)
>
> >I want to ask what is the PIE source of German Kralle 'claw'
(because
> >here seems that we have an extension in l)?
>
> Take the German synonym die Klaue < Old High German klawa
> "claw, talon; paw" < Germanic *klewo- < *PIE gleua_
>
> cf. Maul- und Klauenseuche "mouth and claw disease"
> cf. klauen "to steal" < OHG klawen
> cf. mit Klauen und Zähnen "tooth and nail", e.g. to defend
>
> >P>S> So gheara (DEX: Unknown Etymology') is another Substratual-
> >Inherited word in Romanian (or an old Gothic loan in Dacian?)
>
> This word was (at least) once discussed on the list.
>
> George
>