Re: [tied] Re: Also an Austro-Asiatic Disconnect

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From: "ehlsmith" <ehlsmith@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 2:42 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Also an Austro-Asiatic Disconnect


> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
> > To: "Patrick Ryan" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re[2]: [tied] Re: Also an Austro-Asiatic Disconnect
> >
> >
> > > At 1:36:00 AM on Thursday, November 10, 2005, Patrick Ryan
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ryan, by the way, means 'king'.
> > >
> > > Hereditary surnames don't have meanings;
> >
> > ***
> > Patrick:
> >
> > Of course surnames have meanings.
> >
> > Just a 'little middle-class king'.
> >
> > I would like to poll the list on that question.
>
> Patrick,
>
> I'm afraid this going to sound very clintonesque, but what you mean
> by "meaning". Do you mean that the surname implies anything about its
> bearer? (I can assure you I'm the last person you would want doing
> metalwork for you <g>) If not, it is hard to see in what sense the
> name would have "meaning" in any practical sense. But in any case,
> unless you do claim a surname tells you anything about a person* I'm
> afraid this may just develop into an argument over semantics.
>
> * beyond of course the obvious fact that it may tell who your
> ancestor was.
>
> >
> > Another of my ancestors is surnamed <Wolf>. I suppose that does not
> mean
> > 'wolf' but only has an etymology.
>
> Well, it certainly doesn't necessarily mean that someone bearing the
> name has wolf-like qualities.
>
> Regards,
> Ned Smith

***
Patrick:

Well, on the one hand, I have relatives in Austria named Schindler. Sie
schindeln dort immer noch. It is a nasty job but someone has to do it.

On the other, I have never known a white White, they are always black; and
never a black Black, they are always white.

But seriously, if you meet a Hohenstaufen (even without the von), would you
not suspect nobility?

By the way, my Wolf relatives definitely did behave like wolves.


Patrick