Re: [tied] *kap-

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 40731
Date: 2005-09-27

Grzegorz Jagodzinski wrote:

>>_Which_ two-class scheme do you mean? Jasanoff's?
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>>Piotr
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> But I described it in 40490
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> Grzegorz J.

Ah, I see what you mean. What this theory really deals with is the
derivation of *-je/o- presents and oxytone simple thematics. This is
something rather elementary, and my impression is that the authors are
trying to reinvent the wheel. I wonder why they talk of just two
"classes" while in reality the taxonomy of the PIE verb stems is
somewhat richer and more interesting. I think nearly everybody here, and
in the IEist community in general, will agree by now that deverbative
presents in *-je/o- are derived from athematic aorists, while the
<tudáti> type is of subjunctival origin. Of course _if_ the suffix
remains accented, as in *gWm.-jé-ti/*gWm.-jó-nti (aor.inj. *gWém-t,
*gWm-ént) the root is in the nil grade, but the whole problem is that in
some cases the root is accented and has the full grade, as in
*spék^-je/o-. Germanic *xafjan demonstrates that *káp-je/o- is a member
of the barytone subclass. It can't be analogical, since there's nothing
it could be analogical to. In other words, *káp- is not a substitute for
a lost e-grade, but the e-grade itself.

Piotr