[tied] Re: IE thematic presents and the origin of their thematic vo

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Rob" <magwich78@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:
>
> > IEW gives some Germanic reflexes of *bhe:r-, as OHG, OS ba:ra,

OE

> > bae:r f. `Bahre'. Since there is apparently no PIE
> > wordtype "*bhe:raH2" this does look like the continuation of a

root

> > noun.
>
> Are those regular Germanic reflexes of *bhe:r?

Yes, that's what Germanic /e:/ yields in West Germanic: Goth. ga-
de:ths, OE dae:d, OS da:d, OHG ta:t; Goth. re:dan, OE rae:dan, OS
ra:dan, OHG ra:tan. Also Norse has /a:/.

As for the type of root noun this represents, I think the easiest
identification is with the short-vowel type, of which it would be a
perfect collective, **bhér-H2 > *bhé:r(H2).

Jens