Re: [tied] Nuada = Cloud Maker??

From: A.
Message: 40235
Date: 2005-09-21

Joao,

Actually I'm just trying to understand why the temple of Nodens
(believed to be etymologically linked) has both solar and water
imagery).
As to Nuada himself, he is a figure very similar to the Teutonic Tyr
(whose name is derived from Dyeus -> *Tiwaz -> Tyr)

Sincerely,
Aydan


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...>
wrote:
> You're doing a kind of odd linking: solar = sky =
> cloud = water.
> But if we will find some secure trait of Storm-God in
> Nuada, we could try to explain his name as
> "Cloud-Maker", or something alike.
> Nuada < *noudHo-do:-nt ?
>
> Joao SL
>
> --- "A." <xthanex@...> escreveu:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Joao,
>
> Depending upon how you look at things, Nuada *might*
> be a sky/sun
> deity. Likewise he may be some form of water deity if
> he is linked to
> Nodens (Roman Britain).
> Of course Nodens is not really clear as his temple
> displays definite
> water traits, and yet there is also solar imagery (the
> strongest
> being an apparent sun chariot) I personally wonder
> whether they may
> have linked the two (sun and ocean) after watching the
> sun set in the
> western sea for centuries.
>
> My thanks for the response and information, it is
> deeply appreciated.
>
> -Aydan
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes"
> <josimo70@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I understand the root *(s)neudH- "cloud", cf. Latin
> > nu:bes (>nubine> Portuguese nuvem)...
> >
> > Is there some trait in Nuada that make him a
> > "Cloud-Maker"?
> >
> > I've ever seen Nuada as linked to OE Saexneat, OHG
> > Saxnot < *Sahsa-nautaz.
> >
> > Joao SL
> > --- "A." <xthanex@...> escreveu:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > My apologies if this is a bit of a dead horse...
> >
> > I know there are theories linking Nuada to the PIE
> > root *neud- "to
> > grasp for something / to acquire"
> > And Dumezil has attempted to link Nuada to the root
> > *nedh-, "to bind"
> > (Mitra-Varuna pg 99)
> >
> > But I have repeatedly seen the name expressed as
> > meaning "Cloud Maker";
> > can anyone explain the etymology of this specific
> > term??
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Aydan