Re: [tied] 1sg. -o: [was Re: IE Thematic Vowel Rule]

glen gordon wrote:

> On what basis do you assert that the *earliest*
> thematic presents have an accented thematic vowel?

Because it seems that the simple thematic presents accented on the root
vowel were originally something else (like subjunctives of root
aorists), while those in *-je- and *-sk^e-, with an accented thematic
vowel, have been presents since as far back as our reconstructions reach.

> ... Which are by analogy with thematic aorists which
> also have accent on the thematic vowel. Their
> original function would be to form verbs referring
> to a state of action. Indeed, in IE itself, they
> can describe a state of repetition.

Why should this kind of analogy have affected precisely those stems
whose function is unambiguously presentive by virtue of the
characteristic suffixes mentioned above?

> Oftentimes, *-ye- and *-ske- created denominal verb
> stems but they could also extend other pre-existing
> verb stems.
>
> We can etymologize *-ye- as being from relative
> pronoun *yo- and *-ske- would be from aorist *-s-
> plus emphatic particle *ge. These etymologies further
> suggest the denominal (and thus stative) character of
> these suffixes. That would make for a stronger
> connection at one time with the aorist, not the
> durative. That then explains the accent.

But the sigmatic aorist is accented on the root!

Piotr

>>Originally, the thematic vowel in verbs might have
>>carried obligatory accent, later retracted if there
>>was a full vowel to the left of it.
>
>
> In order to explain paradigmatic vowel alternation in
> thematic vowels, whether they be in nouns or in verbs,
> the accent must be *off* of the thematic vowel at
> the time of Schwa Diffusion. Schwa Diffusion occurs
> after Acrostatic Regularization, thereby explaining
> how we have *bHer-e-si and yet also *bHer-o-mes with
> the least amount of further hypothesizing.
>
>
> = gLeN
>
>
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